[4/26] Juice=Juice 9th Single - Jidanda Dance / Feel! Kanjiru yo

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Re: [4/26] Juice=Juice 9th Single - Jidanda Dance / Feel! Kanjiru yo

Postby Sohee » Sat Apr 08, 2017 2:09 am

That's not a translation. (Also, it's "jidanda" and not "jidada", no?)
If you want a translation you should put in the English translation for what "jidanda" means. In this case, that'd be something like "stamping dance dance, stamp stamp dance" or something similar.

Translation isn't the same as "making it easier for fans to sing along to catchy parts of the song", which is why it bugs me that the subtitles aren't properly done all of the time.

Which is not to say that the effort isn't appreciated, it really is. But as a translator it just bugs me.
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Re: [4/26] Juice=Juice 9th Single - Jidanda Dance / Feel! Kanjiru yo

Postby resop2 » Sat Apr 08, 2017 2:34 am

Shouldn't the first word read "Jidanda" instead of "Jidada"?

Looking at the kanji for Jidanda it seems to be shorthand for jidanda ofumu - stamp one's feet.
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Re: [4/26] Juice=Juice 9th Single - Jidanda Dance / Feel! Kanjiru yo

Postby WokwokJJ » Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:14 am

地団駄ダンス ダンス ジダダンスダンス
i'm not a translator but i wouldn't mind if they translate the 地団駄 part and the rest "jida-dance, dance" just let it the like that. When i hear the start of the song i heard "Jidada"
even if it's "Jidanda" like the japanese lyrics say below, maybe it's a mistake on the recording or lyrics they put.
The other part of the song (Jidanda Jidanda Jidanda Don don, or something like that) i hear Jidanda clearly.
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Re: [4/26] Juice=Juice 9th Single - Jidanda Dance / Feel! Kanjiru yo

Postby CaptainBerryzGiraffe » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:49 am

Personally, I am ok seeing "Jidanda-dance, dance", but like Sohee said- this is not a translation, if you want to "translate" then it should be the meaning of the word 地団駄 :)
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Re: [4/26] Juice=Juice 9th Single - Jidanda Dance / Feel! Kanjiru yo

Postby haropuroraba » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:13 am

Thank you for replies back. Unable to change the official title for many reasons.

The translation below is not offensive?
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Re: [4/26] Juice=Juice 9th Single - Jidanda Dance / Feel! Kanjiru yo

Postby boinsie » Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:56 pm

I would probably just go with "Damn it!"? The "God" part could be offensive to some. "God damn" is generally edited out on American TV, if that's a good indicator.
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Re: [4/26] Juice=Juice 9th Single - Jidanda Dance / Feel! Kanjiru yo

Postby Amped » Sat Apr 08, 2017 4:07 pm

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Re: [4/26] Juice=Juice 9th Single - Jidanda Dance / Feel! Kanjiru yo

Postby Miekie » Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:28 pm

haropuroraba wrote:I hope this translation is OK with English speakers.
"Jidada-dance


Personally, I always feel like if something is a Traditional Japanese custom, the world shouldn't be translated. Just like the traditional verse in: Seishun Kozou ga Naiteiru from Morning Musume.
However, when it is not a tradition dance or anything the translation like: Stomp/Stamp would be more appropriate to understand the title and the MV.
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Re: [4/26] Juice=Juice 9th Single - Jidanda Dance / Feel! Kanjiru yo

Postby Jessi » Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:33 am

haropuroraba wrote:Thank you for replies back. Unable to change the official title for many reasons.

The translation below is not offensive?
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boinsie wrote:I would probably just go with "Damn it!"? The "God" part could be offensive to some. "God damn" is generally edited out on American TV, if that's a good indicator.


I would like to second this. It was the first thing I thought when I saw that you asked if it was offensive.
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Re: [4/26] Juice=Juice 9th Single - Jidanda Dance / Feel! Kanjiru yo

Postby Amped » Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:26 am

TV CM for Jidanda Dance MV during The Girls Live
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Re: [4/26] Juice=Juice 9th Single - Jidanda Dance / Feel! Kanjiru yo

Postby Zunu » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:21 am

Sohee wrote:That's not a translation.

Translation isn't the same as "making it easier for fans to sing along to catchy parts of the song", which is why it bugs me that the subtitles aren't properly done all of the time.



As I've said before, I somewhat disagree. The purpose of translating varies depending on the context, the audience, the goal of the translator. In the case of Harosute I would contend that making it easier for fans to sing along is a big part of the goal of the translation. These are pop songs. A translation which is "accurate" but doesn't respect the spirit of the verse is worse in my opinion than a translation which takes liberties but gives you a more authentic feel. Which is to say, what's "properly done" is to some extent subjective. Not that H!P's captions are perfect, but there have been times where people claim they can do better yet their results are often as not unimpressive.
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Re: [4/26] Juice=Juice 9th Single - Jidanda Dance / Feel! Kanjiru yo

Postby Amped » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:21 am

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Re: [4/26] Juice=Juice 9th Single - Jidanda Dance / Feel! Kanjiru yo

Postby Amped » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:03 pm

Jidanda Dance MV (Hello! Station Edit)
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Re: [4/26] Juice=Juice 9th Single - Jidanda Dance / Feel! Kanjiru yo

Postby 321BreakinOut » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:14 pm

So The video for Jidanda Dance is really refreshing! The song is weird but you just want to listen to it more and more
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Re: [4/26] Juice=Juice 9th Single - Jidanda Dance / Feel! Kanjiru yo

Postby Amped » Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:31 am

Amped wrote:Promotion

Today at 9pm, Juice=Juice Takagi Sayuki and Uemura Akari will be guests on Nogizaka's Nico Nico Live show "Nama no Idol ga Suki"
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Re: [4/26] Juice=Juice 9th Single - Jidanda Dance / Feel! Kanjiru yo

Postby Amped » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:02 pm

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Re: [4/26] Juice=Juice 9th Single - Jidanda Dance / Feel! Kanjiru yo

Postby SaebaRyo » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:09 pm

Jidanda Dance (Promotion Edit)
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Re: [4/26] Juice=Juice 9th Single - Jidanda Dance / Feel! Kanjiru yo

Postby Amped » Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:30 am

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Re: [4/26] Juice=Juice 9th Single - Jidanda Dance / Feel! Kanjiru yo

Postby CaptainBerryzGiraffe » Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:01 am

Great MV :D Quite annoyed at the end that it was entirely Karin being shown even though Akari was singing part of that line too :O
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